While doing my daily listening and reading, I stumbled across an interesting video from Dr. Ryan Cole, a Mayo Clinic trained, board-certified pathologist, board certified in anatomic and clinical pathology who is an expert in virology and immunology. Clearly, he is an expert in the field and is someone who should be listened to. In his video, he spoke about a variety of topics regarding Covid-19 particularly from a immunity perspective. He laid out actual science, treatments and information that isn't commonly talked about as well as the depth of the corruption by government and the vaccine and pharmaceutical companies.

His video went viral on instagram and was trending for several days. The "Fact Checkers" decided that his video was mis-information stating that it has no basis in fact. Dr. Ryan Cole claimed generally that coronaviruses are seasonal with a 6-9 month life cycle. The Fact Checkers argue the case of not all coronaviruses are seasonal, contrary to what Dr. Ryan Cole had claimed. So what do the fact checkers mean by "seasonal"? Are they twisting it to suggest he means they only happen during certain parts of the year, or arguing that some variants of sars/coronaviruses have a longer lifespan? There is no specification, and no further explanation.

With that said, the video is one of the most in depth explanations of covid19/sars/coronaviruses, preventative treatments and risk factors and is certainly deeper than what any government doctors have provided. The problem is that he is giving too much information which is shedding light on how much of policy and information on covid19 is being twisted, misinterpreted, and misrepresented to the public, largely for the benefit of the corrupt individuals calling the shots.

With the mound of information he provided in his speech, the "Fact Checkers" took one small statement of many he made, provided a weak counter-argument with no explanation, and used it as a basis for having the entire video flagged as false/misinformation. At what point will people wake up to all of this?

Here is a link to the speech if anyone is interested in watching it. Determine for yourselves if this meets the criteria for false or misinformation... or call me a Trump ballwasher, anti-masker, anti-vax, covid-hoaxing, conspiracy theorist. We know the latter is a more convenient and lazier way of having a conversation.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CM8F85JHhfM/


Let's discuss,


-Steamy

He runs or owns a private clinic in Idaho, he was being cheered by the crowd prior to speaking, Idaho hates anything covid safety related, so you know what side he's on before he even begins.

I'm not qualified to have my own opinions, I can only regurgitate what I've read and listened to from high level research facilities and specialists in the field. Let's just say he added a few things that probably don't have much actual fact or research to support his "fact based" statements.

His one miracle drug was only used on 42 patients that walked into his clinic. If we use Extemesceptics death ratios, all of these people would have recovered quickly and been fine with or without a drug treatment, which is what his 42 patients did.

So let's start from there.

His claims on Vitamin D were a bit astonishing, not the part about covid, but that you can't get "any corona virus" if you have the proper level of vitamin D. It was almost like he was selling vitamin D supplements.

He said he knows this as fact, I'm not aware of any study that proves it. It may benefit your immune system, but that's different than totally preventing it.


He mentioned certain low cost drugs that will stop you from getting covid, or will halt it in its tracks if you do get it. And that these drugs are common in India. We do know that one reason the death count has gone down is due to the use of various drugs being used off-label all around the world, but I don't think any actual studies indicate a miracle drug yet.

The India thing was something I just looked into the other day. The reports all indicated very low levels of infection, and low death numbers too. The resesrchers were puzzled about it and after looking into it found that due to the huge numbers of people, the poor health care system, and the fact people are dying at a high rate normally, few are checked for covid, and they don't have the infrastructure to do it even if they wanted to. After the fact checks have shown much higher cases of covid than first reported.

They did say people from that part of the world appear to have better resistance to it overall though. Which goes back to this Dr saying genetics is the reason minorities in this country are at more risk of getting it, and dying from it.

There was more, but these were some highlights that indicate where he wanted to go with the conversation.

My nephew is a doctor and has done some work with patients with the virus. Talking to my brother, one of the things my nephew was seeing was that while not all vitamin D deficient people get extremely sick, almost all, or maybe even all, of the most serious patients are deficient. The draw from this was that it probably is very smart to take supplements. That is much different, however, then saying it will prevent COVID.

ondarvr,

Your conceptualization of this being about “sides” is kind of irrelevant in this case because he is an expert in the field, provided research, was engaging in a discussion about findings and science and was censored. I didn’t know part of the scientific process was to censor research, findings, and discussion. The research and information he provided simply runs against the narrative of government public health opinion.

Regarding the “miracle” drug, yes it is a small sample from which he worked with specifically, however he is one of a few providers who utilized the drug. When you add them all together it paints a similar and consistent picture around the efficacy of the drug. This is what practicing medicine is about, and he is being censored for it.

His argument about Vitamin D does not have much research, yet, but that does not mean he is inaccurate in his claims. Vitamin D is being heavily researched at the moment and what the latest literature is beginning to provide is evidence that Vitamin D plays a large role in battling SARS/corona viruses and boosting overall immunity. To my knowledge, he has no stake in benefiting personally to pushing a vitamin D, but I would be happy to change my opinion if you can show me otherwise.

He is a frontline doctor, and what he is saying is supported by the limited available scientific literature. Science also cannot refute what he is saying, either. We need to listen to experts in the field and frontline doctors, not censor them for failing to align with the government public health opinions.


-Steamy

Meanwhile, it appears the link no longer works, because Instagram/Facebook decided it does not want people to hear scientific discussion from experts and deleted the video. Now nobody will have the opportunity to even discuss it, because it is no longer available.

-Steamy

His India statements have been losing ground quickly too.

One reason the death rate is lower in India is because 50% of the population is under 25 years old.

The death rate from Covid in India for the 30 and over crowd is higher in India than the US.

And as I said before, they don't have the infrastructure to even come close to counting them.

To top it off, India is seeing another increase in infections.

When he makes conclusive statements with little data to support them, his likelihood of being incorrect is high.

He was making statements of fact, not speculating and wanting to investigate it further.

If he can show proof that his statements are accurate, great, he deserves credit for figuring it out.

You like him because he's anti everything establishment, just like you.

Bump

"YouTube Suspends Rand Paul After Misleading Video on Masks

In the three-minute video, Paul disputed the effectiveness of masks, which the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and medical experts around the world have recommended to limit the spread of the coronavirus.

“Most of the masks you get over the counter don’t work," Paul, an eye surgeon, said in the video. "They don’t prevent infection.”

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/politics...-masks/3216983/

I love it when big tech monopolists censor actual doctors and elected officials. How do we fix this problem? Two words: Trust Busting.

I love how the left tries to discredit him from having a valid medical opinion because he is an ophthalmologist. He is still a medical doctor, completed med school, and studied virology at the doctorate level.

But if he was praising the vaccines and masks, then his medical opinion would be valid.


-Steamy

From what I remember of his talk, none of it played out like he said.

He said here was supposedly secret cheap cures for covid that the rest of world knew about and used. This was why India had such a low infection rate. He said these are the drugs he uses to treat covid, all 42 patients or something like that.

Well, soon after that India had a huge and ongoing surge of infections. And it was shown that India didn't have the infrastructure to count the dead.

Also, India counts the dead of all causes locally and only turns in the numbers to the government twice a year. Which is another reason why their numbers were low.

One estimate says there are probably around 5 million dead from covid in India. Which is significantly higher than the official count.

The vitamin D thing was really out there, "take vitamin D and you CAN'T get covid or any other similar infection".

"How Science Lost the Public’s Trust

From climate to Covid, politics and hubris have disconnected scientific institutions from the philosophy and method that ought to guide them. The Covid pandemic has thrown into sharp relief the disconnect between science as a philosophy and science as an institution.

If you think biological complexity can come about through unplanned emergence and not need an intelligent designer, then why would you think human society needs an ‘intelligent government”? Science as an institution has a naive belief that if only scientists were in charge, they would run the world well.

Perhaps that’s what politicians mean when they declare that they “believe in science”. As we’ve seen during the pandemic, science can be a source of power, but conformity is the enemy of scientific progress, which depends on disagreement and challenge.

There’s a tension between scientists wanting to present a unified and authoritative voice, on the one hand, and science-as-philosophy, which is obligated to remain open-minded and be prepared to change its mind.

The pandemic has, for the first time, seriously politicized epidemiology.

It’s partly the fault of outside commentators who hustle scientists in political directions, but it’s also the fault of epidemiologists themselves deliberately publishing things that fit with their political prejudices or ignoring things that don’t."

https://archive.is/W3I2l

Scientists, by and large, are relatively stupid. Even worse, they're accustomed to being more or less unaccountable. They're high-level midwits, for the most part, which is why so many epidemiologists failed to note the obvious: if you make an incorrect prediction that costs people a considerable amount of time, money and freedom, you will not get a second chance to tell them what to do.

Furthermore, everyone with an IQ over 115 understands that science is corrupt now, so they correctly view any "study" or recommendation with extreme skepticism.

They are enemies of the state and domestic terrorists either way. I wouldn't want to be a Democrat or working for the FDA or CDC when the American people snap. Could you imagine getting impaled or crucified or being dealt with in some other horrifying way when the American people begin the lynchings?

Is this the malt liquor or mental illness talking?

Did Rich G hijack your account.

Neither, that is a cut and paste from the wall street journal if you'd bother to click the link.

It wouldn't load, I'll try it again.

Foulmouthedpink and Steamtard definitely think they are smarter than everyone in the room. I like how they assume everyone else is the lemming and won’t do the research. Classic narcissists.

But I am not saying you guys don’t have some valid points, just that your goating and gloating doesn’t make you any different than any other fuktard on here, but it seems like you think it does which put you a tick higher or lower on the fuktard pole depending on how you look at it.

You fuktards think you are smarter than all the scientists unless they agree with you. Sounds super open minded to me?!?!!

The main point is that we are being bullsh!ted by the government and media, nobody should be forced to get a vaccine they do not want or need. Nobody is gloating, just showing the other side of the issue, which has, as you succinctly put it, some valid points--since it gets censored everywhere else.

Ondarvr is a smug fvcking moron. Steelheadman and Illahee are just retards.

poker in the front, liquor in the rear.

So should you use this quote too?

If you spurn Covid-19 vaccination, Mr. Ridley says he would “fervently argue” that it is “the lesser of two risks, at least for adults.” We have “ample data to show that—for this vaccine, and for others, going back centuries.” He calls vaccination “probably the most massive and incredible benefit of scientific knowledge.” Yet it’s “counterintuitive and difficult to understand,” which may explain why its advocates have been vilified through the centuries.

It appears you may have some "daddy issues" and don't like older people to start with, then when they question your logic you feel threatened and attack.

And feel safe doing it online.

No because he doesn't show any actual data to back up his claims here. What is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

No, I have greater contempt for the fvcking millennials. I like the Silent Generation, Gen X and Gen Z. I hate boomers because I hate their liberal hippy dippy politics and philosophies. I hate the millenials for the same reason. Actually I would say any of this sh!t in person if people are dumb enough to try and push the vax on me.

My Dad is a fvcking scumbag crazy piece of sh!t, that lied to my face and broke 5 different things in a written agreement that I told him he would be burning the bridge to me if he broke. Since he turned around and broke them immediately. I have estranged myself from him. But it's really none of your fvcking business so why don't you shut the fvck up about someone I hate and don't want to waste even the slightest amount of mental energy on.

I hate you specifically because you are such an authoritarian piece of sh!t. Bitching about people using the river you don't own. Bitching that people aren't following the Covid protocols while you travel all over. And you're fvcking stupid to boot.

You're a moron. On a psychological level people demand control over others because they live in fear, the more afraid someone is the more control they demand. Conversely, the more secure and confident someone is the less control they demand over others. I don't know why you keep responding to me just to hear what an hypocritical dumb jackass you are.

We never fished together, so I don't know why you pretend we did or act like you know me. You are a milquetoast piece of human garbage and a lowlife scumbag. Eat sh!t vaxtard. Go suck your master's dick. Your bitching posts add nothing of value to this site or the world. So kindly fvck right off.

It didn't fit your narrative, so ignore it.

Normal.

You don't have a very good memory, or maybe poor comprehension skills.

My comments on the river were a sarcastic response to one of your posts. I had displayed my actual feelings about it in a prior post.

I must admit, once you start on one of your rants I don't read very far into it, a brief skim to see the high points of the anger are about it.

No because saying you "have ample data" and showing some actual data are two different things. There is literally nothing there but a claim without any evidence. Had he provided date I would have considered it. But since he didn't, there is nothing to even consider.

Keep shilling fagg0t. You are the lowest of the low. Seriously. Scumbag city. Trying to get people killed for what? For Globo Pharmacorp? Sleeeeeazy.


I know you are trying really hard to be a good bootlicker and defend the narrative that you bought from the government and its media marketing department on TV. Denying their misinformation would be accepting the fact that you were used as a tool to push this abuse of trust and power. I don't think you have the ego or constitution to handle the gravity of the reality. I recommend you sign up for the monthly booster vax plan and call it good. Safe travels, I hope you die soon.

Lol. Ondarvr should just learn to shut the fukkk up. He seems to be struggling here.


-Steamy

Or I barely glance at your posts longer than the time it takes to point out how you're wrong and a dumbfuck. Weaker than the last one, this shill c0cksucker really brought his C game out today. Not worth the time it took you to type it out. Why are you still even replying? You never make any valid points. I fvcking hate you and do not want to interact with you at all.

Did you always want to be a piece of sh!t scumbag granny killing fvcking loser fagg0t shill? Did you just wake up one day, smear your last boyfriends feces all over your face, look in the mirror and say "Wow, I'm a worthless piece of living trash, I'm gonna shill for evil incorporated, cause that's all I got. Evil, death and failure." Does it reek, being in the room with you? Like you actually SMELL like dying sh!t or is it just your general greasy personality that stinks? You son of a whore, sack of sh!t fvckbag lowlife? Do tell assmaster, do tell.

Yep, you got it all figured out.

What was that little sheep? Time for your daily milking?


-Steamy

FHP

I like the 'when all else fails attack' method, it reveals character.

A very Trumpian trait. It's a good model for you.

There is no character on the Dark Side.

Or, is it that we are all characters here on the Dark Side?

I fixed your last two sentences. Just keeping it real around here.

The problem with "fact checkers" is that many people don't want "facts", they want their beliefs/desires affirmed, and will accept anything as "fact" that does that.

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/04/sciche...id-19-vaccines/

https://www.ktvb.com/article/news/local/...be-d8edbf576c34

https://www.boisestatepublicradio.org/po...ine-needle-rape

https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/n...enting-illness/

He also spreads the misinformation that Ivermectin, a horse deworming medicine, can treat Covid.

This is based on a totally debunked "study".

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2021...thical-concerns

The guy is a crank, that's why he is fact-checked as a crank. He spreads dangerous misinformation, and like other cranks doing that around the world, he is causing unnecessary deaths among the ignorant who choose cranks over facts because the cranks confirm their biases.

Fish on...

Todd